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Fascinating, and YAY!!! for independent thinking!!!!
Go back a little further to indictments in the Clinton administration vs those in the Bush administration. It's hard to even believe the numbers! More proof that money and power can have a corrupting influence.

Steve and I were talking the other day and he said that you can't be a completely honest person and be a politician, no matter what party you are in. If you are, there is no way you would ever get voted into office.

For the record, I'm registered Republican, but honestly, the older I get the more I hate being affiliated with any side!

My friend Josh said something similar--that once someone decides to become a politician, they've almost automatically lost the right to ask for votes because they're either corrupt or obviously open to corruption.

Did you see Bulworth? It's a very funny movie. It's about a politician (Warren Beatty) who's about to die so he starts telling the absolute truth instead of listening to his lobbyists or advisors.

Kelly and Janie: You guys honestly think that? That there is NO way to be a politician and be honest?

There are millions of elected offices, from mayors to county clerks and on up the lines, and most of the are filled with people who just care about their communities. Think about the people who founded this country, and some of our greatest forefathers: was Abraham Lincoln corrupt?

As far as things like sexual indiscretions are concerned: even Christianity's greatest heroes are often guilty of the same sins. We are all human, after all.

I just don't think it's too much to expect honesty and sincerity out of our politicians. In a way, it's like children- if you don't expect better of them, you'll never get better.
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To be honest, I'm one of those people who doesn't believe anyone's personal life should be the deciding factor in whether or not they are capable of running a political office. I'm a fan of the times when personal lives weren't public knowledge. And statistically, I think the sides flip flop back and forth over which is the most morally corrupt.

Sure, it's shocking when we see one of them on television admitting (or vehemently denying) that they screwed up and screwed someone they shouldn't have. The fact that these people are sleeping with prostitutes or having homosexual trysts doesn't bother me as much as the fact that in the end, they are humiliating their wives in the most public way possible.

I do have a problem with hypocrites, just as you do. People who stand on their soap box and speak of everyone else's abomination should understand that public scrutiny is going to be ten fold on them should they screw up. I'm always amazed when people ask for privacy while they deal with their problems because often they are the very people who publicized and demoralized people just like them in the past.

It also amazes me when people don't seem to put as much stock into a politician's drug use or alleged drug use. Having sex with someone doesn't have the power to change someone's actions as drugs does. A politician under the influence of drugs is much more dangerous than a guy sticking his dick into everything that moves.

Uh...I think I'll stop now.
I've seen one U.S. congressman who I believe has more integrity and honesty than probably half of every other U.S. politician today. He's maintained his stance continuously, he is called Dr NO by his fellows because he won't bow to political pressure or sacrifice his principles for any amount of money.

His problem though, is that he's an elderly man who grew up in the south and has politically vocal and active from a very young age back when racism was not only perfectly acceptable in those parts but required to hold any degree of credibility with the people he was representing. He put his name on a fair number of articles and pamphlets that invite much distain now. I'm not excusing his actions or words, but I will say that his evolution as a politician mirrors the evolution of America as a society. Nonetheless his past transgressions have murdered any credibility he might have and he has come to realize that for his cause to be properly realized he needs to take a back seat and let a younger face with less skeletons in the closet take up the banner.

In him I see an atypically honest politician, a rare breed, but it gives me hope that there might be more out there.

I think it's very hard. I think you can start out with the best of intentions and just get sucked in. Right now, I think Barack Obama is very honest and sincere. And I worry that if he gets elected (or hopefully when he gets elected) he will realize that politics is not a business for honest, sincere people.

I don't think you are necessarily one affilitiation. Nor am I truly, even though I lean more to the Dems. I look at the issues and the candidates as a whole and make a decision based on who can offer the best options for me, Rep, Dem or other.

But as a leaning Dem, I say to the Reps, Ha Ha! Hypocrites. Try to keep it in your pants on the way to church this weekend.

Actually, I was quoting my husband. I'm sure there are plenty of honest politicians out there. I would speculate the ones that don't hold the higher offices are more likely to be the honest ones though.

"I hope not, because I'm registered as an independent."

I knew it :)

"Had I been old enough to vote in the 2000 election, I would have voted for Bush."

I was old enough. *hangs head* I voted for him twice. I did not like the alternatives. Yep, that's right, I didn't think Gore or Kerry were better choices.

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