Oooh, yeah.

Just listening to NPR on the way home from Panera Day and guess what?

They were calling yesterdays primaries a definitive win for Obama, and EVERY SINGLE COMMENTATOR, even the ones who were Clinton supporters, were saying that there is now NO WAY CLINTON CAN WIN, and it's only a matter of time until Obama is set forth as the Democratic Nominee.

Are there angels singing?  I think there are.  Is McCain shaking in his old man boots a little?  I think he is.

Can I get an "ooooh, yeah..."

Oooh, yeah...

I know, I'm a political junkie and too into words and my whole "Obama is like totally the greatest orator in contemporary history and he'll go down in history as an icon of the African American community and this is a great day for America" thing gets old, but...

Oooh, yeah.

I'm a happy girl.


SIDE NOTE:  IN has open primaries, and there have been reports of Republicans who went to the Democratic table so they could "vote for Hillary just to stir the pot" mourning the fact that this means they can't vote in their own primaries.  Uh...  duh.

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emily sears
I certainly appreciate why you're happy. But I'm so overtired of feeling that the media picks the candidates every time. I imagine that supporters of the victor want to believe differently, of course; we all want to feel that our efforts to be a part of the process are paying off, and certainly they do in some respects.

I hope that you get to see what you want to happen with this next presidency.
tom
What I liked most about yesterday was that over 25% of Republicans in both NC and IN voted against John McCain. I'm glad you're giddy with schoolgirl glee this morning, though.
SweetMisery
[this is good]
Happy Happy Joy Joy. I think this will be a great day in the history of America. I had high hopes for Hilary in the beginning, but way to much water under ye ole bridge.
LaidOutInLavender
[this is good]
I really hope they are right. I was watching Hillary pandering yesterday, all of a sudden she has a southern accent like W does. She is turning into him!!!!! I think it is SUCH an insult to us when they do things like talk with an accent to make them seem more like the "people". Grrr... I am frustrated with the reverend because his ego is more important to him than having a decent president, I don't know if Mr. Obama will be able to do all the things he would like, but you can bet he is going to try. That is really all I ask for. And you are right, he is a pleasure to listen to. In more than one of his speeches I have teared up. I want him to be my president so bad it is almost painful.
Lightchaser
The world is waiting for Obama!
Toe-Knee
I wouldn't count her out yet. She and her husband have deep pockets and don't think that some of that money isn't going to digging up information on every democrat superdelegate. Yes I'm jaded enough to think that she'd pull a stunt like that, if the last two US elections have taught us anything it's that the will of the voters is just a small issue in getting elected to anything. Elections are bought regularly and the fact that she's carried on this long means she's certainly considered it.

I'm actually quite surprised that these late primaries are going as well for Obama as they are. He really was the underdog coming into this and Fox along with every conservative pundit in TV and Radio is doing everything it can to smear the hell out of him and he's still going strong, which gives me hope that the overall majority of Americans are actually paying attention rather than mindlessly repeating what they're spoon fed.
Carol
The only thing I fear is, some superdelegates who are members of Congress have said they 'won't necessarily' back the candidate who has the popular vote. I don't usually say this 'cause I'm a Christian, but: Oh, My God! I don't understand what they're thinking. How can they not support the one who has the popular vote? How can they even think about not going along with the pledged delegates? It boggles my mind. The Democratic Party is a mess.
Farfaraway

I was also listening to NPR yesterday and I'm still a bit concerned...apparently some poll (God only knows which one, I can't remember right now) said that there's a contingent of Democratic voters in each state who, when exit polled, would vote for John McCain (against Obama) if he's the nominee. If Hillary won, they'd vote for her, but they refuse to vote for Obama. I'm afraid that's going to happen everywhere...sadly, our country still contains a slew of racists. That's my best guess on why they'd vote against him, when Obama and Clinton differ only by minor degree...

All I have to say is, I can NOT take another 4 years of a rich-old-white-man-Republican as Commander-in-Chief. I just can't. I'm going to move to freaking Canada.

jaklumen
Actually, I was reading in a newspaper column today that she has a knack of channeling anyone she feels she needs to. The author compared it to the T1000 in Terminator 2. Yes, it is insulting, and such was described in disparaging tones.

Hopefully enough people will catch it before it's too late. The idea of a woman president is nice-- I remember following Elizabeth Dole's bid for the nomination some years back-- but just not Hillary.
jaklumen
mourning the fact that this means they can't vote in their own primaries

And I'm chuckling with sadistic glee... if this means our state gains even more momentum for a Top 2 primary and sticks it to the political parties, I'll be a happy camper.

Partisans are rather slow to realize you don't fuck around with Washington state Independents.
Hurricane Hetta
Yep, the hag is losing steam. Well, maybe not steam, but at least her momentum has been thrown to a snail's pace. No more clowns! No more clowns! NO MORE CLOWNS!!!
shush now
I find it hard to believe that the Media fully picks the candidates- after all, Barack Obama has gotten eviscerated by Fox News for the past two months and is pulling ahead.

And if everyone went out, researched the candidates themselves, and voted regardless of media coverage the media would play absolutely no role. So yes and no- the media picks their favorites, but they only control the people as much as the people are willing to be controlled.
shush now
I do like Hillary. Somewhat. But she makes it hard.
shush now
The Superdelegates would pay a big, big, big, big price for flipping the nomination. People on the ground in Indiana are still celebrating how well things went in our counties (the few counties that did go fully to Obama were some of the most populated, and the Obama camps out here worked HARD. REALLY HARD.) and they don't want that work to go ignored. Hillary may have deep pockets and connections, but she also wouldn't want the ground teams that worked so hard for Obama working AGAINST her.

And they would. We'd hit the streets against her. There'd be a revolt.
shush now
I don't know that it's as much of a mess as it seems like. Everyone's hedging right now, but I think they are hedging for Hillary's sake. Not because they will vote for her, but because they want to let her back out on her own so she can salvage her career.
shush now
Don't let it worry you too much. Other polls show that Obama supporters would vote for McCain AGAINST Hillary. There is a huge divide there, but it's a correctable one. And that's not going to be what makes the nomination. What makes the nomination will be the people on the floor, even more than with the superdelegates, and a lot of the delegates are young people who worked their asses off for Obama and will continue to do so.
Farfaraway
Well, I'll keep my fingers crossed. But I didn't think (and I don't think anyone else did) that this would be going on for as long as it has, so I think we're still in for more surprises.
emily sears

I never said fully, though. And I did say this: "we all want to feel that our efforts to be a part of the process are paying off, and certainly they do in some respects."

But your response, "the media picks their favorites, but they only control the people as much as the people are willing to be controlled." demonstrates the problem I was referring to. You're excited, you're so into learning all you can about how to effect change and promote something you feel good about. But you have to know that you're part of a relatively small number of people. And most of those people don't even know their choices are being manipulated, when they're bothering to make choices at all.

I said "we all" want to feel that way, but I should not have. "We" are not most people. Most people are guided by what they are told by the people on their screen. So again, I really hope this works the way you want it to. That would please me, to watch someone's sincere motivation pay off in such a way.


shush now
Amen. It just looks bad for her. She HAS said that she would drop out before letting it go to convention. Is she trustworthy? That's what she's demonstrating right now- that we can't trust her. She'd better wise up if she wants to salvage her career.
shush now
You are so right. And so many people vote based off of emotion or misguided desires, like the people who vote for Hillary because Barack gained an unfair advantage with Oprah's support or the people who have never researched beyond speeches. I'll gag myself if I'm asked one more time where I get Barack's voting record or political stylings from since he hasn't been a Senator long enough to demonstrate who he really is (and his eight years of service on the state level prove nothing?) but that's what we've got.

Things can be different, though. Even if I only believe it because I'm still young. :)

emily sears

Things can be different, though. Even if I only believe it because I'm still young. :)

That's important. As much as I'd like to say otherwise, the fact is, you won't have this same type of excitement 16-20 years from now. But perhaps you'll look back on this time with satisfaction, feeling content about the role you took up. And that will be just as good.

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